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New Album: A Catch in the Voice
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Tomorrow's Yesterday

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:59 pm    Post subject: New Album: A Catch in the Voice Reply with quote



A few of you have heard it already, but here is the official announcement anyhow.

It's 16 tracks long and will be released in March of this year.

We're doing an extremely limited (50 copies only of this version) 2xCD release for starters. Deluxe packaging, which I am not 100% sure what it will be like yet, but it will be covered in my photography and there will be a few cards included of my photography as well.

We're now taking pre-orders. Email info[at]archipel[dot]cc to secure your copy

More info/previews at Archipel

I wish we could have brought you an ultra limited vinyl box set as well, but it would have cost us too much this time around. (I will, however, make sure the next album is presented in such a fashion...that's a long while away yet though. Just wanted to give you the heads up.)

Hope you enjoy it =]
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This one have to be one of the masterpieces, mabye "the masterpiece" of 2009 Very Happy

Canīt wait Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serious business!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm gonna go in a serious huff if i don't manage to get a copy of the fancy cd's

emailed archipel, so fingers crossed


as has been said

masterpiece

though i think my neighbours may be tiring of scotia now

i'm not
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure you made it in =)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

happy blarty
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im really happy to hear this 4 tracks from the page, but it makes me angry that no vinyl will follow, its a shame ! FUCK that MP3 shit Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evil_Concussion wrote:
im really happy to hear this 4 tracks from the page, but it makes me angry that no vinyl will follow, its a shame ! FUCK that MP3 shit Evil or Very Mad


while i share your love of vinyl, and disappointment at there being no vinyl version (especially the box set that was originally mooted), i think the format wars thing is done

vinyl, and especially decently packaged vinyl, is becoming a very expensive risk for a lot of people these days, and given the proliferation of digital djing and interfaces one really has to think about moving with the times

i used to carry two full boxes of records with me everywhere i went. cost a fucking fortune in excess baggage when i couldn't blag it. not to mention the stress and hassle of using trains. now i can carry all my equipment and clothes for the weekend in one bag i don't even need to check in


no one on the dancefloor gives a fuck about the method of delivery these days

apart from cunts and geeks

as long as what's beasting out of the speakers is quality and done with skill, then it doesn't matter a fuck


though, as an aside.....

went to see luke slater at the weekend and BA had lost his bag with his cds in it, so he had to scrounge records to play on the night.

we could have had a load of ropey minanal, but we got 2 hours of amazing techno vinyl played on one of the best sound systems in the world
http://uploaded.to/?id=zpo1j7

havers over

album's still ace, jesse
and i can't wait for the cd version
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blartboy i would say: the tracks are good enought that they will found customer and archipel is a familiar label Wink in modern times i gather that, but why did archipel released really shit vinyls like the Pheek ones, uninspired klick klack richie hawtin soundz and no prompt feelings like somay does ! I dont understand this A&R !!!

The most of the archipell vinyl releases are bleeding and if they have a cornerstone they release it digital Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, JP (Pheek) is a very close friend of mine, and believe me, he'd love to release this as a deluxe vinyl package just as much as I would, but we simply cannot afford it at this time. I truly wish we could just do a run of 100-200, but it costs a *lot* of money to do that.

And as an aside, since I know JP personally, his music is definitely inspired, and I'd love to see anyone try to duplicate it's intricacies. His A&R skills are also far beyond that of many label bosses around today. That being said, its ok to have personal taste differences and not like it, but a lot of people do. He and I share many of the same philosophies despite our art being so completely different. Some people prefer melodies, some people prefer to make non-melodic music, some people prefer noise. We don't cater to any one specific group of people.

Anyhow, I will be releasing future albums on vinyl, so the next one in about 2 years or so, if it takes me that long (or longer), will be solidly packaged, even if I have to pay for it out of my own personal income. I'm a perfectionist, so I'm always striving to further myself and my work, and packaging is intrinsically connected to the music for me, so I will make full well sure that there will be voluptuously packaged albums in the future (Although they will not be dance music records and I'll probably have a new home label by then...but I won't speculate on anything more than that until anything is official, which is a long time from now.)

JP and I talked about the aspect of having this on vinyl, and I believe there is a market for it, somewhere in between indie and dance (I probably know more about indie side of the music industry than JP), but I understand his concerns since he's mostly familiar with the dance industry, so we don't want to take that risk for this album just yet (if it went south, it could easily bankrupt us). So the most we could afford without much financial risk was to do a double CD with deluxe packaging. We're also mastering it with older analogue gear to make sure the intricacies and tiny idiosyncrasies sound as they should be, with that hint of campfire cinder glow. I wouldn't let it be released if it were not up to my standards.

I've got a lot planned for the future, and though I can't go into details about it at this point, I will make it worth while for those who care =)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if this vinyl costs 50euro i will play Exclamation Maybe you can request about your mailing list about interested peoples or shops ??? Im sure, that more as 300 people find for it or ? Maybe you can make a deal with your distribution ??

i dont believe, that you will fork out, even its a hard time with seeling vinyls, i gather that.

Or what does somfay say about that ????

You know, the internet is big and if a lot of people knows about items its better to promote. Please reflect about all Very Happy

P.S. Jesse Somfay AMARANTHINE (2X12) is still in my case Exclamation Thanks for the big coloureds vinyl covers with sleeve too Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I have no doubt that people would be willing to pay for it. I'd definitely make it worth their while.

It's just that we'd need a certain amount of overhead to be able to press the vinyl, construct special card packaging, inserts, etc. and as a label we don't have that overhead at this point.

We completely sold the Amaranthine Reverie 2x12" and it was one of the best sellers on the label for the year. It was limited to around 300 copies. I originally had full colour artwork for the sleeve, but after a long time discussing it back and forth with our distributor, it didn't happen. So we ended up just using the generic sleeves which our wonderful in house designer Jean-Sebastien Baillat designed.

We were doing things via a Press & Distribute distributor, and when you do that, the distributor has to cover the costs of the pressing themselves, so you have to quell any uncertainties/doubts about any risk factors they might have, before they will be willing to release something, unfortunately. At least that is how it is with EDM P&D distributors, it's a bit different in the indie world, lots of people press their own records and pay from their own pockets to do it, unless you manage to get signed to a large label with a lot of financial overhead who can do literally anything they want to.

If we did end up doing vinyl for A Catch in the Voice, we'd most likely have to pay for it out of label overhead, and just avoid the distributor (because in this case they likely would not go for it because all they know is dance, and ACitV is not an entirely dance album, so they'd see it as a risk, as silly as that sounds.)

I know, myself, that there is certainly a market for it, and if I had a lot of money to spare, I would press it myself and have lush custom made packaging...but unfortunately I don't have that kind of money (I can't even afford to live on my own at the moment) and I have to think about forthcoming costs, like how much the next album will cost to record (amps, guitars and other equipment.)

It's a tough industry to work in. You end up having a bunch of ideas you want to turn into real tangible things, but you have to jump through so many hoops to do it when you're not all that well known and not making much of an income.

We'll do our best to get ACitV into the public eye and get it into the hands of those who want it for the time being. If it ends up doing better than we thought it would, perhaps things could change (regarding vinyl), so we will have to work hard and be patient to realize the outcome.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im really happy about the reasons you are telling us. I didnt known that you have a P&D Deal sorry Sad But as you said, its to risky to press a album with all his money put aside, i think i also wouldnt do that. Maybe i press a vinyl for my self too Laughing

P.S. Since the last 2 years i have pressed around 10 vinyls only for using it for myself from artists like somfay, LIMBO, Sasha, Bloc Party etc. Very Happy Only its too bad, that you only have the vinyl, no cover, only just a little white label, thats the only disadvantage to all.

I wish you all the bests for the future and if you have any plans for the future, let us all know Very Happy

Thank you for your words and an honest soul Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks =) I'll be sure to keep you all informed in some way.

I've let JP know about the desire for a vinyl edition, and that we should still be open to the possibility (and he is open about it), even if it's a couple years from now or more. We might not have the money now, but who's to say what the future holds, right? Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tomorrow's Yesterday wrote:
Thanks =) I'll be sure to keep you all informed in some way.

I've let JP know about the desire for a vinyl edition, and that we should still be open to the possibility, even if it's a couple years from now or more. We might not have the money now, but who's to say what the future holds, right? Very Happy


yes Smile maybe a big label major label sings some tracks for a big compilation Surprised or Pheek will win the lottery jackpot ... Razz Razz Razz Razz
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